Notes for: Charles Vantine
The following information came from Carol Van Tine Yocom's website at Rootsweb's WorldConnect:
According to grandson Albert's biography, his grandfather (Charles) fought in Revolutionary War. A Charles Vantine was an ensign in York County, Pennsylvania, but there was nothing to indicate which Charles it was. Revolutionary Marker on grave according to Abstract of Graves of Revolutionary Patriots, V. 4, s-z, by Hatcher. Charles Van Tine, Parsell Cemetery, Owasco, Cayuga Co, NY. Referenced to Congressional Serial Set 1941, 10572, V. 12.
According to great-grandson James's biography, his father Albert was the son of Mathew (Matheus) who fought in Revolutionary War and Albert was in the War in 1812 but not in Indexes.
Event: Religious Event 1766-1774
Note: NJ, Readington Church Baptisms from 1720, Somerset Hist. Quarterly #5, p. 301
20 July 1766 Mariya dau of Charrel Vantein and Elisebet
PA, Adams Co, Conewago DRC Records
31 May 1772 Annatie dau of [Serrel] Vantien and [Elizabeth] Smock
17 Apr 1774 Saartie dau of Sarel Fonteyn and Elizabeth Smock
Event: 1790 Census 1790 in Conewago Twp, Adams Co, PA
Note: 1790 Census Adams Co, PA, (Conewago Twp), p 287 Charls Vantine
Males: 2(16+) 1(-16) Females: 4
Charls, Mathias, Jacob
Elizabeth Smock, Maria, Annatie, Saartie
1800 Census Cayuga Co, NY, Sempronius, 680:8, line 26 Charles Vantine
Males: 1(-10) 1(10-16) 1(45+)
Females: 1(-10) 1(45+)
Abraham, John, Charles; Jinny, Elizabeth
PROB: 21 Jun 1806 in Cayuga Co, NY
Note: FHL 861023 Cayuga Co, NY Surrogate Court Record Box #3
Charles Vantine late of Semphronius
1. appraisal 21 June 1806 by George Burnett and Jacob Bogart
2. mentions Mathias Vantine sold land for $97.75
1. Abraham Auter administrator, Charles Vantine, late of Aurelius, 7 July 1806, filed 7 Aug 1806 Are these for the same men? Is there a land record for this sale of land. Who is Abraham Auter?
Sources:
1.Abbrev: American Genealogist; Three Charles's
Title: Three Charles Van Tines, Cayuga,NY,1800, Series: V. 48, #1, pp.11,12
Author: WARNER Russell L. (2530)
Publication: The American Genealogist, Jan 1972
Note: RIN#2531; PERIODIC
From: Jessica Armstrong [jess.t.armstrong at gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2010
Subject: Charles Vantine
After looking though my notes on the Bodines, I am still not satisfied that Charles Vantine who married Elizabeth Smock and the Charles Vantine who married Ann- VanNuis are in fact the same person. I have conflicting sources. Did you find a will for the Charles that died in Peru Ohio? I am going to look at the Charles who died in Cayuga County 1806 tomorrow.
I also see that the Devoes and Bodines have been marrying each other since colonial times. I found a reference in the NYGBR 1977 regarding de Veaux marriages. An interesting note if you may.
As for the conflicting sources, I see yours and also a compilation by Linda Hole in the Cayuga County Historian's Office. I do not have the funds or means to travel and research, so I am going with what I can find online and in various history books.
I know we've had this discussion before, but I am still confused.
Jessica
From: Jessica Armstrong [jarmstrong at cayugacounty.us]
Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2019
Subject: Charles VanTine
Hello, it's Jessica Armstrong. I sent you stuff on the Bodine's a few years back.
Well, a gentleman hired the office to look into James VanTine and Charity Lewis. A family worksheet he was given has that the father is Jacob VanTine and Alida Post.
However.
I believe the father is Charles VanTine, the one that died between November 1807 and January 1808 based on location and names found in the probate file.
I am still looking into Jacob. There is a Jacob who's wife was Alli in a deed, but the purchase was in Auburn (sold in 1812), and there is another Jacob purchasing in Brutus, but when he sold it in 1815, no wife was listed and he was living in Clarence, (Niagara Co.), NY (where Mathias ended up).
I think there is some confusion as to the many Charles'es. Carol Yocum or Linda Hole has information that is not matching up with what I am finding in the deeds based on dates and locations of people when the deeds happened. I will send you a copy of what I have found when I have it completed in a couple of days.
But the main thing: The Charles that died in 1806 is not the one that wrote a will in 1807-a binder we have in the Cayuga County Historian's Office has some information from your website in it as well as what was compiled by Linda Hole using your site and Carol Yocum's notes-it suggests that the one that died in 1806 was writing a will in 1807…
Charles VanTine, of Sempronius. Will written November 8, 1807. Wife Mary, children Thomas, Sukey, Ann, Jinney, and James. Probated January 9, 1808. Cornelius Bodine, Isaac Ammerman, and Thomas Johnson, Sr., executors. No real estate mentioned, only personal estate. A mare, saddle, and bridle for Thomas. Rest to wife, divided amongst the rest of the children upon Mary's death or remarriage.