Notes for: John Lawrence Dey
Someone wrote this: "At some time during John's lifetime, the spelling of the family name changed from Duyts to Dey. All of the children born to John and Anne used the spelling Dey."
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Some notes below that I found online copied by several people on WorldConnect. I don't know who did the original research:
John Laurens Duyts (or Dey) moved to Cranbury, NJ about 1725. His wife may have been Ann Brown, as his son Vincent named a son Brown Dey.
His will is dated 1 Oct 1750 and proved 8 Mar 1750/51 [Liber E, p496].
Documents related to the Colonial History of State of New Jersey, 1st Series, Vol 30:
"Calendar of NJ Wills," Vol II (1730-1750), by William Nelson, Part 1, p142.
Wife Anne. Children- John, David, William, James, Vinson, Joseph, Anne, Katherine. Debt owing to Capt. Samuel Leonard. Executors: sons John and William DEY & son-in-law Lawrence DEY. All eight children mentioned in will.
Deed from Mindore Johnson to John DEY - 25 Dec 1725.
Deed to his eldest son John DYE, Jr. of Cranbury, Middlesex, NJ - 8 Mar 1737.
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From David Conover's information on WorldConnect:
"He devises to his eldest son John, the just sum of five pounds at 8 S. Per ounce to David the just sum of fifty pounds at 8S. Per ounce. To his sons
William, James,Vinson, and Joseph, and daughters Anne and Katherine allt (sic) the remainder of the money arising from the sale of my estate to be
equally divided amongst them, their heirs, ect..The land was encumbered, the interest on the debt was to be paid by his wife, and to whom, he leaves
the use during her life. Also devises to her during life the personalty after payment of debts except therefrom the debt upon the plantation. After the death of his wife, and sale of the property, proceeds to be divided as above set forth."
Executors, my son William and my son-in-law, Lawrence Dey.
Witnesses Peter Perrine, Sten (Steven) Warne, and Sarah Davisson.
Conover also had this:
He purchased from Mindert Johnson of the township of perth amboy 200 acres of land, bounded on the south by Millstone river, and on this tract he settled. This land is located near Prospect Plains and Cranbury, Middlesex county, new jersey, and is now owned and occupied by John Dey a descendant of Wm. Dey of 1718.
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Here is a book that seems to have a lot on this family:
Old Church Farm, by John Butler.
Old Church Farm, Cranberry, Middlesex Co., New Jersey
Somewhere in this book, it seems, it says "'Old Church Farm' bought by John Dye Sr., 1725... first small church in the neighborhood was built on corner of it. Building recently burned down and the gravestones behind it have all been stolen, but our ancestors are buried. John Dye Sr. bought it in Dec 1725 and gave part to John Dye, Jr., our Exekiel's father."
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And here is some information Cheryl Buckler had on WorldConnect:
{CLB}- NOTE-I may have slightly edited/modified the info below in order to adapt it to my personal style of data organization such as using 2-letter state abbreviations & replacing Roman numerals,etc. Also, I make the notes as compact as possible, so that my program doesn't truncate them. For the original, untouched version please visit URLs as listed.
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Ray Mastin-Entries: 111-Updated: Aug 25,2001 - Contact: Randall Mastin
John DYE - b: about 1680/d: about 1750
Note: John Laurens Dey - b: abt.1680 in Staten Island, NY (Son of Hans Laurentszen Duyts & Sara Hance Vincent Fontaine) .John Dey Sr. d: bef. 8 MAR 1750/1751 in Perth Amboy, Middlesex County, NJ(Machaponix?). He m. Anne (Brown?) who was b: bef.1700 in New York. Her parents are not known. Anne d: abt.DEC 1763 in Middlesex County, NJ. [From a letter written by J. Warren Dey in 1902 to E.M. Dye -sent to me by Tom Robertshaw]" On 21 DEC 1725, he purchased from Mindert Johnson of the township of Perth Amboy 200acres of land, bounded on the S by Millstone River & on this tract he settled. This land is located near Prospect Plains & Cranbury, Middlesex County, NJ & is now (1902)owned & occupied by "Brick House" John Dey a descendant of William Dey of 1718 (son of John Laurens Dey). The "farm" was approximately 17 miles S of Perth Amboy, NJ. Note that Prospect Plains is just N(less than 3 miles) ofCranbury, NJ. The farm was known as the Old Church Farm & was occupied for at least 125yrs by John Dey & his kin".
Will of John Laurens Dye-By his will dated OCT 1, 1750, proved MAR 8, 1750 or 51, he names wife Anne, sons: John, David, William, James, Vinson [Vincent] & Joseph & daughters Anne & Katherine. Executors: my son John, my son William & my son-in-law,Lawrence Dye (son of James Dey -- Lawrence m. Anne(Daughter of John Laurens Dey)."He devises to his eldest son John, the just sum of 5pounds at 8S. Per ounce to David the just sum of 50pounds at 8S. Per ounce. To his sons: William, James,Vinson & Joseph & daughters Anne & Katherine allt (sic) the remainder of the money arising from the sale of my estate to be equally divided amongst them, their heirs, ect. The land was encumbered, the interest on the debt was to be paid by his wife, & to whom, he leaves the use during her life. Also devises to her during life the personalty after payment of debts except therefrom the debt upon the plantation. After the death of his wife & sale of the property, proceeds to be divided as above set forth."Witnesses Peter Perrine (his neighbor), Sten (Steven) Warne & Sarah Davisson."
It is supposed that his wife survived him many years, as his estate had not yet been settled in DEC. 176(9?). When James Dye mentions in the codical (sic) of his will, the money which is now owing & coming due & payable by virtue of the last will & testament of his father John Dye.The inference & supposition as to why John was to receive but 5pounds, is that he had already given John as his eldest son his full share in other lands, etc.The family record has not been found, therefore the will is the authority as to who were the children of John & Anne Dey or Dye. The loss of church Records during the War of the Revolution is regretted by all students of family (sic) history. The Bible of Lawrence Dey is extant & gives his wife's age, or birth: FEB 2, 1715 & William Dyes Bible is also in possession of his descendants, which gives his birth as JUL 6, 1718. All efforts on part of the writer hereof [J. Warren Dey] to unearth the records of other members of this family have failed.The desendants of three sons of William are to be found in Mason County, KY, in different counties of Indiana, Illinois, Missouri & Texas, also in Oklahoma. Johns descendants are to be found in Ohio, Illinois & other states.James' descendants, which have been identified, are to be found in PA, OH, IN & other Western country, but as yet the descendants of but two sons of James have been identified,viz: Andrew & Benjamin, the later being identified within the past year (1904).At the date of the codicil to will of James Dye, son of John Laurens Dey, all his children were under age 21yrs.The codicil is dated DEC. 13, 1763.
Father: Duyts (Dye HANS LAURENSZEN (JACK) b: SEPT 28, 1644 in New Amsterdam, NY
Mother: Sara FOUNTAIN b: February 28, 1662 in Staten Island, NY
Marriage1- Ann BROWN
{1}Child- William DYE b: JUL 7, 1718 in Staten Island, Richmond County, NY
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John Laurens DEY - b: 1680 in Staten Island, Richmond County, NY/d: BEF 8 MAR 1750 in Perth Amboy, Middlesex County, NJ
Event: Land 21 DEC 1725 John Dye, 200 acres, from Mindert Johnson of Perth Amboy Twp
Will: 1 OCT 1750 John Dey names, wife Anne, six sons & two daugthers. Executors, sons John, William & son-in-law Lawrence Dye
Probate: 8 MAR 1751 Witness we Peter Perrine (neighbor), Sten Warne, (neighbor), & Sarah Davisson.
Marriage1- Anne BROWN b: 1688 in New York City, NY
Married: ABT 1708
{8}DYE Children:
1- John - , Jr. b: 1711 in Staten Island, NY
2- Anne Sarah - b: 2 FEB 1715 in Staten Island, Richmond Co., NY
3- William - b: 6 JUL 1718 in Staten Island, NY
4- James - b: 1720 in Staten Island, NY
5- David - b: 1725 in Staten Island, NY
6- Vincent - b: 1726 in Cranbury, Middlesex County, NJ
7- Joseph - b: 1728 in Middlesex County, NJ
8- Katherine - b: 1739 in Middlesex County, NJ
Source: [Book] Middlesex County, NJ Genealogy & History- Author: NJGen Web & USGENWEB Projects- Publication: Old Church Farm by John Butler- Page:Old Church Farm, Cranberry, Middlesex County, NJ
Text1: ". . .John Laurens Dey, . .b. 1680 Staten Island, NY. . .d. bef MAR 8, 1751, Perth Amboy, Middlesex County, NJ. . .married Anne Unknown (Brown?). . .Will dated October 1, 1750, proved MAR 8, 1750 o r 51, names wife Anne, sons John, David, William, James, Vinson, & Joseph & daughters Anne & Katerine. Executors: my son John, my son William, & my son-in-law Lawrence Dye. . ."
Text2: Dye Data, Volume 3, maps of the area--author, John Butler, Deceased North top of image. Typed captions on map site
1-Middlesex County, NJ, 1761 Earliest land owners & farms. 2- John Dye bought property December 25, 1725 from Mindert Johnson. It's stayed in family for many years & called Old Church Farm. "original purchase marked--John Dye, 1725. " The farms of John Laurens' sons John, James & Joseph are clearly marked as the trace of Millstone Creek." The farm of William Dye (John Lincoln (Laruens?) to William Dye, 1748, 300 acres) lies to the north, across Cranbury Brook of George Mount . . .Note that with the exception of David & Joseph Dye, all of John's sons had farms within a few miles of the original purchase."
Text3: " 'Old Church Farm' bought by John Dye Sr., 1725. . .first small church in the neighborhood was built on corner of it. Building recently burned down & the gravestones behind it have all been stolen , but our ancestors are bureid. John Dye Sr. bought it in DEC 1725 & gave part to John Dye, Jr., our Exekiel's father."
And here is some more from Chreyl Buckler:
CLB from RootsWeb: Northup-Dye,Entries: 45668, Updated: 20 15-04-01 , Contact: Kari Northup Home Page: Kari's Gene alogy Site
Please contact me if you have any corrections or additions , or for more information. Check my website for additiona l photos, notes, etc. that I have posted so far.
John Lawrence DYE-Birth: 1687 in Richmond, Staten Island , New York/Death: BEF 08 MAR 1751 in Macheponix, Middlese x Co., New Jersey
Burial: Perth Amboy, Middlesex Co., New Jersey
Father: Hans Laurenson DUYTS b: 28 SEP 1644 in New Amsterda m, New York
Mother: Sarah Hance VINCENT b: ABT 1650 in New York
Marriage 1 Anna Moore BROWN b: 01 OCT 1687 in New York or P ennsylvania
Married: ABT 1710 in Staten Island, Richmond Co., NY
8 Children
Has Children John Lawrence DYE b: 23 MAR 1711 in State n Island, Richmond Co., New York
Has Children Anne Sarah DYE b: 02 FEB 1715 in Staten Is land, Richmond Co., New York
Has Children William DYE b: 06 JUL 1718 in Staten Islan d, Richmond, New York
Has Children James DYE b: 01 JAN 1720 in Staten Island , Richmond Co., New York
Has Children David DYE b: 1725 in Staten Island, Richmo nd Co, New York or Middlesex Co., New Jersey
Has Children Vincent DYE b: 20 JUL 1722 in Staten Islan d, Richmond Co., New York
Has Children Joseph DYE b: 1728 in Middlesex Co., New J ersey
Has Children Catherine DYE b: 1730 in Middlesex Co., Ne w Jersey
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http://www.uh.edu/~jbutler/gean/johndey.html
John Laurens Dey
John Laurens Dey was born about 1680 in Staten Island, Ne w York. He was the son of Hans Laurentszen Duyts and Sara Hance Vincent Fontaine. John Dey Sr. died before 8 March 175 0/1751 in Perth Amboy, Middlesex County, New Jersey (Machap onix?). He married Anne **** (Brown?) who was born before 1 700 in New York. Her parents are not known. Anne died abou t Dec 1763 in Middlesex County, New Jersey.
[From a letter written by J. Warren Dey in 1902 to E.M. Dy e - sent to me by Tom Robertshaw]
" On 21st day of Dec. 1725, he purchased from Mindert J ohnson of the township of perth amboy (northern most X on t he map to the righ) 200 acres of land, bounded on the sout h by Millstone river, and on this tract he settled. This la nd is located near Prospect Plains and Cranbury, Middlese x County, New Jersey, (southern most X on the map to the ri ght) and is now (1902) owned and occupied by "Brick House " John Dey a descendant of William Dey of 1718 (son of Joh n Laurens Dey). The "farm" was approximately 17 miles sout h of Perth Amboy, New Jersey.
Note that Prospect Plains is just north (less than 3 mi les) of Cranbury, New Jersey.
The farm was known as the Old Church Farm and was occup ied for at least 125 years by John Dey and his kin."
In Dye Data, volume 3, maps of the land ownership around Ol d Church Farm were presented. [Several of these images ar e large so the download time may be extensive on a slow mod em] The veracity of these interesting pieces of history i s being investigated at this time.
From Regina Berry: "Will of John Dey; New Jersey Colonial A rchives ; will dated 1 October 1750, proved 8 March 1750/1 . Names wife Anne ___ (Brown?) and children :
John Dey married Mary Applegate (there is some disagree ment as to the name of John's wife). - born on Staten Islan d, New York in 1711 and he died in Monmouth County, New Jer sey in 1772
Anne Dey was born in 1715 on Staten Island, Nework an d died in 1792 in NJ. Married Lawrence (Laurens) Dey who wa s born around 1700 in New Jersey and died after 1750 in Ne w Jersey. His mother was Margaret Dey and his father was Ja mes Hance Dey. Anne and Lawrence were effectively first cou sins. He was the son of John Dey's half-brother Jeams Dey . They had 8 children. A Lawrence Dye (Dey?) served in th e New Jersey Militia during the Revolutionary War.
William Dey was born in 1718 on Staten Island, Richmon d County, New York and died in 1784 in Perth Amboy, Middles ex County, New Jersey. . Married Margaret Salter (her paren ts are not known). William and Margaret had at least 12 chi ldren and William, John, and Kenneth moved to Mason County , Kentucky by ____?
James Dey - born in 1720 in Staten Island (?), New York , and died in 1764 in New Jersey. Married Sarah Leach. Thei r son Andrew Dye migrated to Miami County, Ohio around 1770.
David Dye - born in 1725 in Middlesex County, NJ and di ed in 1776 in New Jersey. Married Hannah Disbrow. [Sarah Ap plegate, sister of Mary Applegate had married her cousin An thony Applegate. His mother was Hannah Disbrow. Was David' s wife related?]
Vincent Dye - born in 1726 in Middlesex, County, New Je rsey and died on August 4, 1796 in Prince William County, V irginia. Married Sarah Artepe on September 1, 1746 in Middl esex County, New Jersey. She was born on January 9, 1727 i n Somerset, New Jersey and died on October 2, 1797 in Princ e William, Virginia. He was Ezekiel Dye's uncle. Prince Wil liam Co. VA wills, vol H pg 166 - dated January 6 1796, pro ved April 4, 1796 - names wife Sarah, three youngest sons : Dusoway, Joseph & William; other sons: Daniel, John, Vinc ent, Enoch, Brown, David and Reuben. Five daughters: Eunice , Rachel, Sarah, Nancy and Caty.
"Vincent and his family moved to Prince William County , Virginia around 1782 as he appears on a tax list for tha t year." Did he follow his nephew John Dye, son of Johh Dey , who moved to Prince William County around 1776? Vincent D ye appears on the Prince William County, Virginia, Persona l Property Tax 1787 - List "A" (Arnold Hovey - 2/10/98). Vi ncent and Sarah had 14-15 children:
Joseph Dey - born about 1728 in Middlesex Co., NJ and d ied in 1805 in NJ. Married (1) Margaret and (2) Martha Wile y.
K(C)atherine Dye - born in 1730 in Middlesex Co., NJ an d died (unmarried?) in 1750 in NJ. Or, she may have been th e Catherine Dye who married the much younger (14 years?) Wi lliam Covenhoven.
John Laurens Dey appears to have moved from Saten Island, N ew York to Middlesex County, New Jersey (red dot on the ma p to the right) between 1711 and 1715.
Will of John Laurens Dye
By his will dated Oct. 1, 1750, proved March 8, 1750 o r 51, he names wife Anne, sons John, David, William, James , Vinson [Vincent] and Joseph, and daughters Anne and Kathe rine. Executors, my son John, my son William and my son-in- law, Lawrence Dye (son of James Dey -- Lawrence married Ann e, daughter of John Laurens Dey).
"He devises to his eldest son John, the just sum of fiv e pounds at 8 S. Per ounce to David the just sum of fifty p ounds at 8S. Per ounce. To his sons William, James,Vinson , and Joseph, and daughters Anne and Katherine allt (sic) t he remainder of the money arising from the sale of my estat e to be equally divided amongst them, their heirs, ect. Th e land was encumbered, the interest on the debt was to be p aid by his wife, and to whom, he leaves the use during he r life. Also devises to her during life the personalty afte r payment of debts except therefrom the debt upon the plant ation. After the death of his wife, and sale of the propert y, proceeds to be divided as above set forth. "
Witnesses Peter Perrine (his neighbor), Sten (Steven) W arne, and Sarah Davisson."
It is supposed that his wife survived him many years, a s his estate had not yet been settled in Dec. 176(9?). Whe n James Dye mentions in the codical (sic) of his will, th e money which is now owing and coming due and payable by vi rtue of the last will and testament of his father John Dye.
The inference and supposition as to why John was to rec eive but five pounds, is that he had already given john a s his eldest son his full share in other lands, ect..
The family record has not been found, therefore the will i s the authority as to who were the children of John and Ann e Dey or Dye. The loss of church Records during the War o f the Revolution is regretted by all students of family (si c) history. The Bible of Lawrence Dey is extant and gives h is wife's age, or birth, Feb. 2, 1715. And William Dyes Bib le is also in possession of his descendants, which gives hi s birth as July 6, 1718. All efforts on part of the write r hereof [J. Warren Dey] to unearth the records of other me mbers of this family have failed.
The desendants of three sons of William are to be found i n Mason Co., Kentucky, in different counties of Indiana, Il linois, Missouri, and Texas, also in Oklahoma.
Johns descendants are to be found in Ohio, Illinois and oth er states.
James' descendants, which have been identified, are to be f ound in Penn., Ohio, Indiana, and other Western country, bu t as yet the descendants of but two sons of james have bee n identified, viz; Andrew and Benjamin, the later being ide ntified within the past year (1904).
At the date of the codicil to will of James Dye, son of Joh n Laurens Dey, all his children were under twenty one year s of age. The codicil is dated Dec. 13, 1763. The two claim s referring to the share of a deceased son or daughter ar e identical and as follows:
I will and ordain that if any of my sons should die bef ore they arrive to the age of 21 years or marry, then the s hare of the deceased to be divided among the survivors. I n case of the daughters the share is divided among them. Ja mes Dye, gives his wife the use of the plantation, three co ws, two horses, and some necessary household goods, ect., f or the use and benefit of herself and her children to use o ne year. All his other personalty is ordered sold as soon a s practicable and at the end of one year after his death th e plantation and personalty preserved are to be sold. Thi s as will be seen could have no other result than a seperat ion of the family, each to look out for himself and herself . The property or rather proceeds of the sales was to be di vided into sixteens, two sixteens to his wife, and each o f his sons, and one sixteenth to each of his daughters.
[J. Warren Dey then describes where the various documents n oted above could be located.
"The conveyence from Vincent Fountain and his mother Sa ra Hans, with the consent of her husband Hans Laurens (Duyt s corrupted to Dye) to the widow Garretson, is recored in t he Clerk's office in Richmond County, New York, (now the bo rough of Richmond of the city is greater new York). The wil l of vincent Fountain is recorded in the office of the surr ogate of the city and county of New york was made about 173 0, and I think proved prior to 1740.
The conveyance from Mindert Johnson to John dey is reco rded in the office of the secretary of State, Trenton, Ne w jersey. If in new York, I could give you book and page. T he wills of John dey and his son James Dye, will also be fo und in the office of the secretary of State at Trenton an d the original wills are to be found there on file.
You ask the relation of Lawrence Dey to Anne Dye his wi fe. Anne Dye, as you know was the daughter of John Dey th e first of the name to settle in Middlesex county, new jers ey. She was the granddaughter of hans Laurenszen and mrs. S ara Fountain Dye. Lawrence Dey was the grandson of the sam e Hans Laurenszen and his first wife Marritje Sayrs. Whil e in the Lawrence Dey and his wife Anne Dye were own cousin s, they were half blood being the grandchild of the same ma n by different wives."]
The letters of J. Warren Dey are an invaluable insigh t into not only the Deys and Dyes of Middlesec County, Ne w Jersey, but the mind of a genealogical researcher as well.
The National Genealogical Society Quarterly, Dec 1957, Vo l 45 No 4. pg 130-131, summary mentions many 'possible' an d 'may be' connections between Dey/Dye families on Staten I sland and in NJ. It is often cited as the source for the ma iden name Brown, although it mentions this only as a possib ility.