Notes for: Francis ("Frank") Asbury Bodine
From: Ronny Bodine
Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2022
To: bill.bodine
Subject: Re: Chicago area Bodines
Bill,
So, today I did spend some time at our local Family History Center, went to the index of Cook County, Illinois Marriage Licenses and located the issuance of license number 84123 on 3 Aug 1884 for Francis A. Bodine and Sarah J. Vickers. Then went to the licenses themselves and at 84123 was the notation "lic. not returned." In other words, they got their license but did not use it. I suspected as much as statewide marriages for Illinois through 1900 have been indexed and there was none for Francis and Sarah, meaning they did not marry in Illinois. The only takeaway from this is that they would have married after 3 Aug 1884 with their first child, Mamie, born ten months later, on 14 June 1885. Can't imagine why, with license in hand, they decided not to use it....
Ronny
From: Bill Bodine, PA-C
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: Chicago area Bodines
Ronny,
I remembered something that caught my attention. You noted in the Chicago Inter Ocean on 8 March 1888, Bill for divorce for drunkenness and cruelty. What's odd is that it says it's from circuit New York suits. The lawyer seems to be William J Tewkesbury. From the best I can tell, it seems he was a lawyer in New York. I tried looking at some papers on newspapers.com , but since I don't have an account all I can see are previews. That name seems to come up in New York papers under legal proceedings. My question is why would they have filed for divorce in New York, if they lived in Chicago (further supported by the fact that it was reported in a Chicago newspaper)? Do you think it's possible they actually married in New York? I remembered reading that, and thought it was strange. Figured you would know much better than me how things like that worked and were reported at that time.
Bill
Bill later wrote: Just to follow up. I ended up signing up for a newspaper.com account (at least a 7 day trial), and looked at that divorce notice. It actually says “new suits” not “New York”. So, I'm guessing it was indeed Chicago proceedings.
From: Ronny Bodine
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2022
To: bill.bodine.pac
Cc: bodinegenealogy
Subject: Re: Chicago area Bodines
... I tend to believe Frank's year of birth was 1861. In 1900 he gave Jan 1861 as the date and was aged 49 in April 1910 (=1861). On 11 Jan 1920 when the census taker visited Frank must have ... blurted out 56 when asked his age, rather than 59. As for Yonkers birth records, they start in 1875 according to Reclaim the Records who sued NY to release all the records....
It is odd that he cannot be found in the 1870 and 1880 censuses. The NY State Census of 1875 for Westchester County is lost. There are several Bodine families in Westchester County in 1860, but their family members are all accounted for. I wonder if Mount Olivet Catholic Cemetery might have the original burial records. Something worth pursuing.
...
Ronny
From: Bill Bodine, PA-C
Sent: Saturday, December 3, 2022
To: Dave Bodine
Cc: Ronny Bodine
Subject: Re: Chicago area Bodines
As a follow up to your last email, Dave, I was talking to my dad and his siblings today. They said that they had been told that our last name was spelled Beaudin or Beaudine at some point. They said they were told it was spelled that way when our ancestors came from France “before the revolutionary war.” How true that is, I don't know. But it gives a possible lead on an alternate spelling. If it was spelled that way, I would imagine it would be in a New York census, since Frank was born in NY, and he mentioned in subsequent censuses that his parents were from NY.
They were all very intrigued by all of this. Would love to be able to solve this mystery and trace it back further.
From: Bill Bodine, PA-C
Sent: Sunday, December 4, 2022
To: Dave Bodine; Ronny Bodine
Subject: Re: Chicago area Bodines
I've been thinking some more about Frank's date of birth. According to Find a Grave, his gravestone lists his date of birth as 26 May 1866. When he died, Sarah was still alive, and census records do not seem to indicate they were estranged. They are listed as husband and wife on the 1910 and 1920 censuses, and Sarah listed herself as widowed on the 1930 census. I have a hard time believing that she wouldn't have had some input on Frank's date of birth being listed as May 1866, if it was indeed January 1861. Also, I've read up on accuracy of ages in the census. Apparently it's very common for the ages to be quite a bit off due to a few factors: 1) the census taker would often get the information from whoever was in the residence. If no one was home, they would take it from a neighbor. 2) approximate ages were often used, especially if it was not the individual in question answering. 3) people would sometimes lie about their age for various reasons.
All this to say, I wonder if Frank's date of birth actually was 1866. It just seems odd to have a totally different date and year of birth come up out of thin air.
Also, I believe I found Frank's voter registration from 1888. On it, he is listed as being a resident of Illinois for 10 years. State of birth listed as New York. This makes me think he probably lived in New York from birth until 1878. If that's the case, he's got to be in the New York census in 1870. So far, I haven't been able to find anything.
From: Ronny Bodine
Sent: Monday, January 23, 2023
To: bill.bodine; bodinegenealogy
Subject: Re: Chicago area Bodines
Bill,
I just looked at the DNA results. What it means is there is no genetic relationship to any of the three Bodine lines that comprise the project. You do not descend in the male line from Jean Bodine and Esther Bridon (my line) nor from Jean Bodine and Maria Crocheron (Dave's line) nor from the Orange County, NY Bodines. Your Francis Asbury Bodine just appeared on the scene in 1884 aged 23 when he married. The possibilities are:
Adoption. He was born to a non-Bodine and was adopted by a Bodine.
Assumed name. He assumed the name Bodine on his own. Perhaps he was a Beaudine and chose to use Bodine as hundreds of Swedes did.
Illegitimacy. He was born to a Bodine woman and so would lack the Y-DNA connection.
Later break. Frank Bodine was indeed born a Bodine, but there was a break in subsequent generations.
Your focus should now be on the first three men in the list to whom you are related with 37 markers and 1 step. It could very well be that your direct line goes back to a Dilamarter.
I took a look at the first name, Thomas I. Dilamarter. He was born in 1963 and lives in East Amherst, NY. The Dilamarter line is Canadian. It runs like this:
Hesikist Dilamarter 1847-1907
.....Orval Hezekiah Dilamarter 1888-1965
..........John Irvine Dilamarter 1917-1981
...............Thomas Irvine Dilamarter 1941-2015
....................Thomas I. Dilamarter 1963-
Thomas's contact email is Dilamarter at roadrunner.com.
I'm sorry it turned out the way it did. If you showed a connection to Dave or me that might have put us on a path to follow up on. But as you do not relate to us your only choice is to contact Thomas Dilamarter. The fact that Frank Bodine was born in New York and the Dilamarters came from Canada to New York might mean something or it is just a coincidence.
Good luck and keep us informed if you make any progress.
Ronny
From Ronny Bodine (Nov. 27, 2022):
From Chicago (IL) Tribune of 3 Aug 1884:
Marriage Licenses: Francis A. Bodine, 23 AND Sarah Vickers, 18, both of Chicago.
There is no evidence that Francis and Sarah were married in Illinois where statewide marriage records through 1900 have been indexed. Their 1884 marriage license may not have been used.
In 1880, Sarah Vickers, 14 IL, lived with her parents, Michael and Kate Vickers, in Condit, Champaign Co., IL.
From The Inter Ocean (Chicago, IL) of 8 March 1888.
Circuit, New York Suits. Sarah Bodine vs. Frank Bodine. Bill for divorce for cruelty and drunkenness. William J. Tewkesbury, colr.
From Chicago, Cook County Birth Records:
14 June 1885: Mamie Bodine, born to Frank Bodine & Sarah.
10 June 1887: William Francis Bodine, 2nd child born to Francis Asbury Bodine, 26 (b. NY) and Sarah Vickers Bodine, 22 (b. Illinois)
29 March 1907: Edward Eugene Bodine born to Frank Bodine, 44 (b. Chicago) & Sarah Vickers Bodine, 41 (b. Chicago)
From Chicago City Directories:
1896 Frank Bodine, agent 100 Cleveland av
1898 Frank Bodine, agent, 330 23d
1899 Frank Bodine, agent, 364 23d
1900 Frank A. Bodine, salesman, 341 23d
From Illinois Federal Census Records:
1900 (7 June) Chicago (23rd St., Ward 5), Cook Co.: Frank BODINE Jan 1861 NY (pts. b. NY) married 15yrs soap salesman, Sarah Oct 1865 IL wife married 15yrs 5 children born/4 living, William June 1887 IL son, Edith Feb 1890 IL dau, Margaret June 1892 IL dau, Rina Aug 1894 IL dau.
1910 (25 April) Chicago, Cook Co.: Frank BODINE 49 NY (pts. b. NY) married1-23yrs soap salesman, Sarah 44 IL wife married1-23 yrs 6 children born/6 living, Margaret 17 IL dau, Rena 15 IL dau, Frank 5 IL son, Edward 3 IL son.
1920 (11 Jan) Chicago, Cook Co: Frank BODINE 56 NY salesman, Sarah 56 IL wife, Irene 25 IL dau clerk, Frank 18 IL son clerk, Edward 14 IL son.
In April 1930, Sarah Vickers (not Bodine), age 65 and widowed, lived with her son-in-law and daughter, Arthur and Eva Sissner, in Chicago.
Cook County Death Records:
Frank Bodine, retired soap salesman, born 26 May 1866 in Yonkers, [Westchester Co.] New York to unknown parents; died 18 July 1928 in Chicago, buried Mt. Olivet Cemetery, Chicago. Wife Sarah. Mrs. O. J. Murphy, informant.
Sarah Jane Bodine, born in Thomasborough, Illinois; died 28 Dec 1938 in Chicago aged 70. Daughter of Michael Vickers and Mary Quinn. Spouse-Frank.
NOTE: Not to be confused with:
1870 Chicago, Cook Co., IL: Fanney BODINE 30 NY, Frank 10 IL at school.
Burials in First Presbyterian Church Cemetery, Yorktown, Westchester County, New York.
(For grave marker photo see Find A Grave Memorial No. 147016250 & 147016177)
FANNIE, wife of FRANK BODINE, Died April 17, 1887, Aged 47 Years
FRANK BODINE Born Oct. 29, 1858 Died Nov. 3, 1876